Comments on: Undocumented 3.1 Rogue Changes

By: Zaltu Zen'tar

Zaltu Zen'tar — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:28:24 +0000

The whole PPM system for poisons does seem likely now that I relook at it. I doubt that this will be a big nerf to double fast daggers completely but seems more like to allow you to choose weapons based on things other than speed.

I’m thinking we’re going to see a greater variety of rogue weapons dropping in Ulduar

By: Stridus

Stridus — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:25:43 +0000

The key word there is “frequency.” It’s not an increase in the “chance to apply” Instant Poison, it’s an increase to the “frequency of applying.” This implies that IP is probably gonna be on a PPM system that rules out the speed of a dagger as a factor in IP poison damage. It’s most likely gonna be a nerf for those with double fast daggers (like 2 Webbed Deaths). Makes sense since Blizzard probably wants to promote the use of slow daggers with Mutilate, but it sucks cuz I invested DKP in Webbed Deaths and gold in Berserking enchants on them.

By: Finks

Finks — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:33:12 +0000

I don’t know, check this out, if anything I think it’s the death of Wound poison.

Improved Poisons (Tier 4) changed to increases the chance to apply Deadly Poison to your target by 2/4/6/8/10% and the frequency of applying Instant Poison to your target by 10/20/30/40/50%. (Previously increased chance to apply Deadly and Instant poison by 2/4/6/8/10%)

By: Thimble

Thimble — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:25:14 +0000

Here’s what you’re missing. Apparently poisons are PPM now, thus the changes to envenom and imp poisons. If that’s true, we’re probably looking at a major IP nerf, and a switch back to slow daggers for mutilate.

By: Finks

Finks — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:20:54 +0000

Ahh, here are all the changes.

* Glyph of Sap — Increases the duration of Sap by 20 sec. (Old: 10 sec.)
* Glyph of Deadly Throw — Increases the slowing effect on Deadly Throw by 10%. (Old: Increases the range on Deadly Throw by 5 yards.)
* Glyph of Adrenaline Rush — Increases the duration of Adrenaline Rush by 5 sec. (Old: Decreases the cooldown of Adrenaline Rush by 60 sec.)
* Glyph of Sprint — Increases the movement speed of your Sprint ability by an additional 30%. (Old: also reduced the duration by 5%)
* Glyph of Crippling Poison — Increases the chance to inflict your target with Crippling Poison by an additional 20%. (Old: 10%)
* Glyph of Pick Lock — Reduces the cast time of your Pick Lock ability by 100%. (Old: 75)
* Glyph of Hunger For Blood *new* — Increases the bonus damage from Hunger For Blood by 1% per application.
* Glyph of Killing Spree *new* — Reduces the cooldown on Killing Spree by 45 sec.
* Glyph of Shadow Dance *new* — Increases the duration of Shadow Dance by 4 sec.
* Glyph of Fan of Knives *new* — Increases the damage done by Fan of Knives by 20%.
* Glyph of Tricks of the Trade *new* — Your Tricks of the Trade grants an additional 10% bonus damage to your target.
* Glyph of Mutilate *new* — Reduces the cost of Mutilate by 5 energy.
* Glyph of Cloak of Shadows *new* — While Cloak of Shadows is active, you take 40% less physical damage.

By: Finks

Finks — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:20:08 +0000

FYI

Glyph of Adrenaline Rush — Increases the duration of Adrenaline Rush by 5 sec. (Old: Decreases the cooldown of Adrenaline Rush by 60 sec.)