Comments on: Ask Zaltu: Expertise and the Poison Hit Cap

By: peterrogues

peterrogues — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 11:59:11 +0000

Since 3.3, as mutilate, how important is 26 expertise? Whats the two best trinkets out of these 3:

128 hit one frm Eot
86 expertise ilevel 232 vicotr’s call
or 153 haste EoF trinket? i think hit and haste… dropped to 16 expertise…good?

By: loppy

loppy — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:11:34 +0000

i like to know what spec is better now muti or combat? i realy like to know because i can do anything now.i need your hel guys.

By: Boo

Boo — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:43:10 +0000

@Fritz
Thanks. A trinket with enought expertise on it to bring me to the cap dropped and is now equiped and yes my DPS has gone right up.

The speadsheets I used (from EJ) grossly undervalued expertise.

By: Fritz

Fritz — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:32:19 +0000

Expertise is much better for Mut than combat, not only because of the risk of messing up rotations but also from a pure dps perspective.

1: Mut doesn’t have SA.
2: A dodged finisher wastes _all_ the energy.
3: Mut uses a lot of finishers.

For combat exp is worth less than agi or ap but for Mut you absolutely should gem for the exp cap. According to the spreadsheet exp gems give about 15% more dps than agi/ap gems. And the peace of mind when envenoming late is priceless.

By: Riley

Riley — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:10:42 +0000

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By: Zaltu Zen'tar

Zaltu Zen'tar — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:51:44 +0000

@Eren,

Hmm..interesting. I get the exact opposite result. Then again I’m Combat.

Proof once again that you should always confirm everything with a spreadsheet because things vary so much from gear set to gear set.

By: Boo

Boo — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:07:45 +0000

Also in patch 3.1 poisons will scale better with AP from 8% to 12% so this would also be a very good reason to get your hit up to the poison hit cap.

By: Boo

Boo — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:05:32 +0000

Interesting post. I must say being a muti rogue my dps used to be a little dissappointing. However, after some tweeking and changing my gear I managed to get an extra 200-300 dps (no upgrades just swapping out a few items for other items I thought were inferior but kept in bank).

Initially I gemmed for hit and expertise but found by actually gemming for AP my dps increased substantially. Perhaps this is to do with poison scaling with AP also?

Anyhow, I’m at the point now where I got some T7.5 and T7 pieces and some nice epics, my expertise has dropped to 22/22, hit has increased, and AP has increased. Overall my DPS is a massive improvement.

Ideally, yes, I want to get my expertise back up to 26/26 but whenever I use one of the theorycraft spreadsheets out there AP gems always seem to come out on top.

By: Eren

Eren — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:15:38 +0000

Hello Zaltu!

About not using expertise gems… I replaced my 16 expertise gems (currently 4) with 16 agility and 32 ap and my total dps went down at Roguecraft spreadsheet ( Mutilate version ) every gem I replaced.

By: Syrana

Syrana — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:27:49 +0000

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