Comments on: The Armor Penetration Nerf

By: ruddiger

ruddiger — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:09:39 +0000

I’d also like to know if its worth it to gem ArP instead of agi/ap. Specifically for a sword/axe combat rogue who’s focus is maxing dps for raids/boss fights. I know theyre dropping arp as a stat for cataclysm, but for the meantime?

By: Uzzi

Uzzi — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:35:01 +0000

Agree with yean.. Ive tested it out for some weeks now, capped on all but going back to fist/dagger and trying ag with rupturless spec for a while now.

T8 armpen spec stacked with maces OR Stacking Ag etc in Evisc.spec? With offsetgear (loosing T8 and setbonus) and without maces.

By: yean

yean — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:54:08 +0000

I guess what we really wanna know is if it’s still worth gemming whole arpen or go back to agi/ap.

By: zaub

zaub — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:15:09 +0000

Theirs zero reason to put a point in vigor over relentless strikes as it is only beneficial at the start of the fight because after that you should never get near 100 energy let alone 110 energy. And if you are energy capping your doing something wrong and losing a lot of DPS.

Weapon swapping. Short answer is it DOES increase your dps but only SLIGHTLY and that is assuming you do it perfectly, if you don’t you will end up losing dps… IMO it is not worth it since the gains you will see are less then 100dps.

By: Blindwolf

Blindwolf — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:59:53 +0000

Hey Zaltu, is there any benefit to putting 1 combo point in Vigorous instead of Relentless Strikes, or perhaps Lethality. Ive always done full talents except for the 1 point in Throw spec. Just wondered if it was too small a diff to matter.
-Wolverstone (llane realm)

By: tedoubledy

tedoubledy — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:47:59 +0000

Awesome explanation thanks Zaltu

I think its great that they are bringing armor pen more in line with the other stats. The stat was becoming so inflated that even mutilate rogues were considering it. I’m hoping that this would bring us away from that mindset a bit…but if the stat altogether will disappear with the expansion I guess we’ll have to talk about all this all over again.

I also have an additional request. It’s more geared for mutilate rogues but there has been some talks of weapon swapping coming back into play esp with the change to master poisoner. With DP no longer being used by envenom with 3/3 to MP there are people who are thinking of swapping for a different poison granted you have a OH of similar ilvl. I guess I just wanted to know your thoughts on the matter. Thanks!